Jan. 20, 2026

Brian Shaffer — The Man Who Never Left the Bar

Brian Shaffer — The Man Who Never Left the Bar

After a night out in Columbus, Ohio, Brian Shaffer is last confirmed on surveillance entering a bar—then he’s never seen leaving. We reconstruct the verified timeline, the CCTV gaps, and the evidence that keeps this disappearance unresolved.

This episode includes AI-generated content.

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Every disappearance has a final moment of certainty, a last sighting,

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a last call, a last place someone was known to be.

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The last known tells real true crime cases using only

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the facts.

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Today we are wrestling with a case that has rightfully

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earned the grim title of the King of missing person cases.

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It really has.

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We're talking about Brian Shaffer, a twenty seven year old

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Ohio State University medical student who, in the early hours

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of April first, two thousand and six, walked into a

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bar and then somehow just ceased to exist.

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The location was the ugly Tuna Salona, right there off campus. Yeah.

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And the reason this mystery remains so utterly compelling, i

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mean nearly two decades later, is that it seems to

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defy physics. You have a controlled environment, you have surveillance,

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you have definitive proof of entry.

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He's on camera, we see him walk in.

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We see him walk into the second floor bar. But

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despite the Columbus Police Department reviewing every single frame, tracking

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every single patron and employee, Brian Shaffer was never recorded

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walking out.

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It's just it's impossible.

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It's the vanishing act that should have been impossible, and

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that technological paradox that's what has kept this case so

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firmly lodged in the public consciousness.

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Okay, so let's try to unpack this impossibility by grounding

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it in a bit of reality. Who was Brian Shaffer

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in two thousand and six. He wasn't a transient, He

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wasn't a strange from his family. This was a highly successful,

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high achieving young man, you know, right on the cusp

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of his professional life.

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Absolutely. He grew up in Pickerington, Ohio, had already earned

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a degree in microbiology, and was well into medical school

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with OSU. I mean, his future was pretty much mapped.

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Out, and his personal life seemed to mirror that success.

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Precisely. He was in a serious, committed relationship with Alexis Wagoner,

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who is a fellow medical student. They were planning a

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big spring break trip to Miami, a.

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Trip that friends and family viewed as well. They thought

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he might propose, that.

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Was the feeling. So this suggests commitment, forward motion, stability,

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you know, all the things that argue again and someone

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just disappearing.

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But that stability, it was coupled with a really profound,

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very recent trauma.

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And that is the critical piece of the puzzle that

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so often gets overlooked in the rush to just analyze

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the security footage. Yeah, just three weeks, three weeks before

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he disappeared, Brian's mother, Renee Shaffer, had tragically died after

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a battle with cancer. So Brian was actively deeply grieving.

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So you have this young man who's trying to balance

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the high pressure world of medical school, all the expectations

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of his career, his relationship.

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All while navigating the raw immediate pain of losing his

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primary support system. It's an unbelievable amount of stress.

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That cocktail of grief, pressure, and high expectation is just

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essential context. It's what immediately struck the law enforcement officers

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who were handling the case.

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It was the lead investigator, retired Columbus Police sergeant John Hurst.

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He summed up the collective bewilderment best.

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What does he say?

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He noted that everyone, and I mean everyone, as he's

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got everything going for him, why would this individual just

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disappear like this?

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And that's the question. So we have to hold all

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of those factors, the achievement, the grief, the future plans,

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we have to hold them all in mind as we

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go through the timeline of the nighty Vanish right.

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So the evening of Friday, March thirty first, two thousand

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and six, it starts on a pretty normal note. Okay,

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Brian has dinner with his father, Randy Shaffer, just a

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routine family get together. He also tried to call his

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younger brother Derek, but Derek RDY had planned so he

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was unavailable.

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So he's reaching out, trying to connect with people.

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It suggests he was seeking company, maybe a bit of

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distraction as the weekend was starting and it was the

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unofficial start at spring break, you know, a chance to

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blow off steam after exams.

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And that's exactly what he planned to do. Around nine

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point three or or ten pm, he meets up with

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his friend Clint Florence.

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And this is where the celebratory part of the night

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really kicks in.

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You go bar hopping right.

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They start at the Ugly Tuna saloona which was a

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super popular spot. It was on the second floor the

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South Campus Gateway complex. And it's important to visualize this.

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It's a modern, busy retail and entertainment hub. This isn't

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some shady, isolated bar on a backstreet.

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No, it's a very public space.

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Very public. But their night wasn't confined to the Ugly Tuna.

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Like a lot of college students, they did a typical

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bar crawl, moving between a few different places in the

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area before eventually heading back to the Ugly Tuna around

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one point twenteen in the morning.

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And when they came back, they weren't alone.

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No, they had picked up Clint's friend, a woman named

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Meredith Read. And this is a critical detail because the

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moment the three of them, Brian, Clint, and Meredith arrive

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back at the Ugly Tuna, they are captured clearly on

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the security cameras.

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So that establishes the last definitive time he's seen inside

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the bar complex and with his friends exactly.

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And now we are closing in on the crucial moments,

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just before the bar's closing.

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Time, which was two am, or was it leader.

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The official closing time was generally two am, but alcohol

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service would stop then and patrons might linger until two

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point three zero. So at approximately one five to five am,

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the surveillance footage captures Brian outside the bar's upstairs.

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Entrance and he's talking to someone he is.

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He's talking briefly to two women, Brighton Zacho and Amber Ruick.

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The conversation was casually at a lasting maybe a minute

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or two.

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This is the absolute last moment we see Brian Schaffer

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on camera. So what does that final frame actually show.

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The video shows Brian walking off screen. He appears to

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be moving back toward the bar's entrance, but the camera's

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field of view cuts him off right before he crosses

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the threshold.

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So we don't actually see him go back in.

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We do not, and this detail is crucial because his friends,

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Clint and Meredith, they later said they believed he went

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back inside.

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They just assumed he did.

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They did, and they offered some conflicting ideas about why.

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Maybe he said he was going back to watch the band,

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or maybe he told the women he'd walked them to

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their car but then changed his mind because he was

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pretty intoxicated.

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But the hard visual evidence the video, it just ends

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with him moving out of frame.

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It ends.

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Let's pause on that conflict for a second. If Brian

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was highly intoxicated, which multiple sources suggest he was, his

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decision making would have been impaired. But does the video

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really show him heading back into the bar or just

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moving away from where he was talking.

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It shows him moving in the general direction of the entrance,

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that's all we can say for sure. The camera doesn't

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show him passing the security checkpoint or entering the main

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area again.

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And this is where the investigation just immediately hits a

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brick wall.

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Right, law enforcement has to rely on what the camera saw.

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His friends are relying on their intoxicated memory of him

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saying he'd.

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Be right back, and the camera is unyielding. He vanished

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in that minuscule gap of time and space exactly, so

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the bar officially closes. Clint and Meredith are now looking

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for him, yes, and.

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Their search was immediate, but ultimately unsuccessful. Clint specifically checked

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the men's restroom, a natural place to look, right, of course,

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when he couldn't find Brian in, he and Meredith just

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assumed he'd taken off. And here's the key mitigating factor.

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Brian had a reputation among his friends for doing this.

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Oh really, Yeah, He would occasionally just take off on

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his own without saying goodbye when he felt he'd had

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enough or was just ready to go home.

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So this behavior is why Clinton Meredith didn't immediately panic exactly.

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It's why they didn't sound the alarm. They just thought

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he was already home sleeping.

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It off that casual dismissal, just assuming he went home.

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It's just tragic in hindsight. How long did it take

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for the situation to escalate from Brian left early to

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Brian is missing?

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The urgency only truly spiked. On Monday, that's April third,

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he failed to show up for his scheduled flight to

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Miami with his girlfriend alexis.

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Missing a huge trip like that, a trip where he

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might propose that is completely out of character, totally.

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His father, Randy Shaffer, immediately drove to Brian's apartment.

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And what did he find there?

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The scene was incredibly telling, and it strongly argued again

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it's the idea that Brian had intentionally prepared to run away.

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How So, the apartment was immaculate, His car was parked outside, untouched,

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the bed was made. All his personal belongings, including his

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luggage for the Miami trip and his beloved guitars, were

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all neatly put away.

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No signs of a struggle, no hasty packing.

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No note, nothing. Everything about the apartment suggested Brian had

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planned to be back in a matter of hours. The

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missing person report was filed immediately after Randy confirmed he.

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Wasn't there, So the central paradox of this whole case

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is the surveillance footage. If he entered, and the investigators

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are certainly accounted for every other person who left, how

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did he manage to walk through a solid wall of technology.

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This is where the rigor of the investigation really comes

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into play, and it's why law enforcement is still so frustrated.

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Detective Andre Edwards of the Columbus PD and his team,

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they were meticulous.

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They didn't just watch the tapes.

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Oh no, they practically digitized the patrons. Edwards reportedly projected

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the video discs onto a wall, making the images lifelike,

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so he could track every single person's trajectory entering, moving

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within the bar, and eventually exiting. They even looked for

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signs of him changing clothes or trying to disguise himself.

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They were ruling out everything.

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And their absolute conclusion was that Brian Schaffer did not

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use the main exit.

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Correct The ugly Tuna was on the second floor and

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the main way out for patrons was to go down

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an escalator to the ground level of the gateway complex.

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Law enforcement has stated with one hundred percent certainty that

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Brian did not use that escalator.

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They accounted for everyone else who did everyone? So if

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the main exit is out, we have to look at

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the secondary, less controlled ways out. What were the options

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and what created that crucial blind spot.

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There were essentially three alternatives to the escalator. First, there's

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a dedicated fire escape. Second, and this is the most

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critical one, there were service exits that led into an

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active construction zone behind.

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The bar, an active construction zone that becomes the focus

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of Scraethurst's primary theory.

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His speculation hinges on the lack of security around these

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secondary exits.

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So tell me more about how vulnerable these construction entrances were.

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Well, according to Hurst, they weren't very secure at all.

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These were service doors or just openings covered by plywood panels,

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often secured with just a chain and a padlock. But

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when investigators looked at them, Hirst noted they were not

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fool proof. He said, you could easily push on the panels.

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They were simple enough for someone to slip through in

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or out of the construction area without a lot of difficulty.

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So it sounds less like a high security area and

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more like a poorly managed construction site that happens to

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border a busy nightlife hub.

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That's a perfect way to put it, and that lack

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of security was compounded by the technological failure sincre right.

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While there were surveillance cameras aimed at this general area

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behind the bar, they weren't static, fixed cameras. They were

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panning cameras, and for two thousand and six CPTV systems,

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that's a critical technical distinction.

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Let's get into the technical debas tails here for anyone listening,

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how does a panning camera create a fatal blind spot?

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A panning camera moves, you know, sweeps over a wide

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field of view, so it might spend thirty seconds looking

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toward the construction site, then thirty seconds looking toward the

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parking garage, and then it just repeats that cycle.

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So if Brian exits through that unsecured plywood during the

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window when the camera is sweeping the opposite.

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Direction, he would simply not exist on the tape. Unlike

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a fixed camera that gives you constant, though narrow coverage,

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the panning system created these temporary, recurring windows of opportunity.

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It was the perfect cover for a quick, unrecorded exit.

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And there were no cameras pointed directly at the exits.

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None. They were watching the peripheral area, not the exit

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points themselves.

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So the combination of an easy to breach exit and

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a camera system designed to look away periodically it creates

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the perfect scenario for an accidental vanishing. It does, but

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that still doesn't explain why Brian would use that route.

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The typical theory realized on spontaneous impaired thinking.

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Right. Yes, if we assume the most innocent interpretation, no

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foul play, no premeditated running away, the motivation is purely visceral.

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He was drunk.

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We know he was intoxicated, and, as one commentator aptly noted,

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alcohol is a banger in our bladders. Near closing time

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at a packed college bar, the restroom lines would have

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been insane.

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And if he was already outside talking to those two women,

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it's entirely plausible he just thought, I don't want to

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fight the crowd to use the bar restroom.

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Again, precisely, the theory suggests Brian intentionally used the service

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exit or stairs, not the main escalator, to find a

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less crowded or maybe even an outside place to relieve himself.

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He wasn't trying to a v law enforcement He was

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just trying to find a quiet corner to pee.

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And This idea has been talked about online, but it

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also matches up with what law enforcement thinks about spontaneous

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alcohol fueled behavior.

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It does. But wait, there's a challenge to that simple

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drunk pee break theory. Okay, if he was trying to

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have bade his friends, as some have speculated, why choose

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such a complicated, high risk way out. If he wanted

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to leave without Clinton Meredith, he could have just walked

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down the main escalator and left. His friends would have

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just assumed he'd gone home anyway.

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That's a really good point. So maybe it wasn't just

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about finding a bathroom.

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The thinking is that if he was already arguing with

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Clint earlier that night, maybe his motivation was twofold immediate

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physical relief and avoiding a potentially tense interaction with Clinton

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Meredith on the escalator right down.

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So by taking the service stairs he eliminates the chance

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of running into them. He thinks he can just quickly

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circle back to the street and head home.

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Exactly the decision to use the construction path, whether for

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a quick escape or a bathroom break, it suggests a

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level of temporary, localized evasion.

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That spontaneous impaired thinking theory makes the most immediate human

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sense for a college student, but it also means that

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accidental entry into the construction zone leads to a prominent disappearance.

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It does.

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Now, what about the intense theories early on that something

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happened to him inside the bar?

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The Columbus PD was rigorous in ruling that out. The

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Ugly Tuna was structurally a big open room. It would

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have been very difficult to hide a covert homicide or

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an accidental death right there.

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And they brought in cadaver dogs.

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They did crucially, they brought in cadaver dogs. These dogs

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searched the entire building, the floors, the back areas, even

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the roof. They found no trace of human or mains

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or blood. Zero.

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And the idea that he might have fallen into a

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construction pit and been covered with wet cement that one

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always comes up in these mysteries.

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Scrainhurst definitively dismissed that. He confirmed that when the investigation

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started there was no evidence of fresh cement poured that

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would suggest a body had been hastily covered up. Plus,

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the bar has since been completely renovated and nothing was

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ever found within the walls or foundation during that later construction.

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So the police are firm. Whatever happened to Brian, it

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happened after he left the confines of the ugly Tuna Saluna.

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Yes, and if the bar is ruled out, the focus

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inevitably shifts to the person last known to be with Brian,

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Clint Florence Flynt Florence, and the suspicion surrounding him isn't

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just because of his proximity to the event, but because

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of his actions in the investigation that followed.

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And the specific key action that immediately put Clint under

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the microscope was his refusal to take a polygraph test.

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Absolutely, the contrast is just It's stark and immediate. Brian's father,

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Randy Shaffer, who was dealing with his own grief and

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was subject to these bizarre rumors about insurance fraud, he

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voluntarily took a polygraph and passed.

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Marriedithree. The friend who joined them also took one and passed.

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She did. Clint Florence stands completely alone as the only

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key figure to refuse, and he refused multiple times, right.

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At least twice, Yes, once when the Columbus police asked,

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and then again when the family's private investigator asked.

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Beyond the refusal. Clint then retained an attorney, Neil Rosenberg,

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and invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination when

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he was subpoened appear before the grand jury.

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So that combination of refusal and legal protection, it just

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creates this enormous unfillable gap in the police's understanding of

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those final moments.

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It does.

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But from a law enforcement perspective, how much does a

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polygraph refusal actually imply guilt? Sush to me, and Hurst

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did acknowledge that attorneys often advise clients not to take them,

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regardless of the truth, and.

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That's the tightrope pers had to walk. He knew intellectually

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that legal counsel often prohibits polygraphs because the tests aren't

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admissible in court and they are notoriously unreliable, Asras pointed out,

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if you fail, you look guilty, If you refuse, you

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look guilty, and even if you pass, the police might

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not trust the result anyway. However, the operational reality for

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the investigators was that Clint was the only eyewitness to

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that critical period, and his refusal meant they could not

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eliminate questions about his testimony. So for the police, the

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suspicion naturally hardened because a full, truthful accounting of the

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night was legally barred.

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So the real issue isn't just the polygraph refusal itself.

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It's the massive unfillable gap in the timeline that refusal created,

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especially since Clint was the last one with him.

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Exactly, and that gap is what fueled the family's relentless pursuit.

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But the situation got even more contentious two years later

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in two thousand and eight, when Clint's lawyer, Neil Rosenberg

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entered the public conversation with a really explosive claim.

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Remind us of what that claim was.

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Rosenberg sent an email to the family's PI asserting that

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a detective had led him to believe that Brian was alive. Wow.

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And then Rosenberg added that Brian should come forward and

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end this, essentially implying that Brian was responsible for his

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family's pain by voluntarily disappearing.

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If that were true, it would completely exonerate Clint and

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turn this into a voluntary missing person case.

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It would, but the police reaction was immediate and dismissive.

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Squat Hurst confirmed that absolutely none of the detectives actively

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working the case had ever made a statement.

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Like that, so Hurst called it baseless totally.

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He suggested it was either a deliberate misdirection or a

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huge misunderstanding used by the attorney to justify Clint's continued

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silence and maybe end the pressure on his client. The

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statement did nothing before salt in the family's wound and

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just intensify their suspicion of Clint.

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Let's deal deeper into the nature of their relationship. It

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wasn't always smooth sailing, which adds another layer of tension

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to that final night.

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We know there was underlying conflict. Investigators confirmed that Brian

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and Clint were involved in a verbal altercation inside the

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Ugly Tuna that very night, right before Brian disappeared.

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And this wasn't an isolated thing none at all.

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They had actually fought physically about two weeks prior, around

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Saint Patrick's Day. So this established a history of conflict

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and volatility in their friendship.

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And what about the rumors regarding Brian's personal life that

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the police unit was discussing.

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Yeah, the police unit did discuss the possibility that Clint

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was protecting a secret about his relationship with Brian. There

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were these persistent rumors that their relationship was more than

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friendship from.

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Clint's former roommates, right, they reported the two were a

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little too touchy philly.

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That's the phrase they used, touchy philly for anyone listening.

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That implies a level of physical intimacy or closeness that

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goes beyond a standard male friendship. In the context of

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the interviews, it was used to suggest a possible closeted relationship,

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or at least an ambiguous.

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One, So Spitthurst confirmed this was a legitimate line of

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inquiry for them.

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It was. The idea was that Clint's refusal to speak

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might stem from his desire to hide his sexuality, or

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perhaps an intimate situation that went wrong accidentally or otherwise

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that night.

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So if Clint was hiding a potentially intimate relationship or

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just hiding the fact that their argument escalated into something physical,

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his silence makes a certain kind of sense. Even if

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he wasn't directly involved in the disappearance itself.

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It creates a perfect motive for non cooperation. Whether he

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was guilty of foul play or simply guarding personal secrets.

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The outcome for the investigation is the same, a brick

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wall of silence. At the most critical point in the time.

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Line, and the family's belief in Clint's culpability is just

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it's undeniable.

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It is Both Derek Schaffer and Alexis Wagoner have publicly

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stated their belief that Clint knows more than he has revealed.

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Derek specifically pointed out that after the disappearance, Clint started

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speaking about Brian in a negative way, and that.

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Change in demeanor, combined with the legal stonewalling, convinced the

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family that Clint was actively concealing information.

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Right, regardless of whether that information was about a tragic accident,

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a voluntary departure, or something much darker involving foul play.

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Moving beyond the ugly tuna and its immediate circle, let's

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establish the broader context of the search efforts. When a

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person vanishes, rumors immediately start circulating about financial distress or

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a secret second life. What did the investigation find about

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Brian's finances?

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The financial picture was pretty straightforward for a medical student,

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which is to say it involved debt, but not the

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kind of overwhelming, high risk debt that typically motivates a

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rapid flight or makes you a tark.

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So no massive debt with a bookie or anything like that.

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Nothing like that. The financial motive was largely dismissed, and

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Brian's father, Randy even had to defend himself against these

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completely unfounded rumors about life insurance money. It just highlights

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the level of cruel speculation the family was.

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Facing, and he passed a polygraph on that too.

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Absolutely, Randy's willingness to submit to that test just reinforces

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the integrity of the family's search. Money was not the

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catalyst here.

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The cell phone data, though, that remains one of the

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most maddening pieces of evidence. It provides this fleeting hope

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and then just frustrating contradiction.

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It really does. For months after Brian vanished, Alexis Wagner

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tried calling his phone and it went straight to voicemail

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every time. Every time. Then six months later, in September

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two thousand and six, something incredible happened.

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She called again.

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She called again, and this time the phone did not

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go straight to voicemail. It rang three times before it

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switched over.

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Six months later. That must have been a can't even

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imagine it.

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Caused mass hysteria and hope. The phone was traced to

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a tower pinging in Hilliard, Ohio, which is about fourteen

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miles west of.

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Columbus fourteen miles away. That's a huge distance for a

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phone that should have been dead or destroyed if he'd

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fallen into a dumpster in near campus that night.

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It is, and while the carrier later dismissed this single

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ping as a potential system glitch, that dismissal itself is

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hotly debated. I mean, what causes a system glitch to

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ring three times and ping a tower fourteen miles away?

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Right, It's not definitive proof Brian was alive, but it

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strongly suggests the phone or someone using it was active

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and mobile far from the ugly Tuna months after he disappeared.

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And this is critical for supporting the voluntary disappearance theory.

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But there's an earlier detail about phone pings, one that's

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often cited that might be even more crucial to the

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construction exit theory.

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That's right. Other sources indicate that investigators recorded pings much earlier,

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specifically twenty four to forty eight after the disappearance, and

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those pings were located within a six block radius of

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the bar.

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So if that earlier data is reliable, and that's a

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big if given the tech in two thousand and six.

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It proves the phone definitely left the immediate area of

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the Ugly Tuna.

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It means he was mobile at least for a moment

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after his last sighting.

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Let's talk about the physical search. How extensive were the

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efforts to find him in the immediate area.

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Oh, they were exhaustive. Dive teams scoured the Olontangi River,

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which runs near campus. However, investigators noted the river was

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extremely shallow at the time, only a couple of feet deep,

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making it unlikely to conceal a body permanently.

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Though drowning is still possible.

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Still possible. These horses to search trails. They scoured dumpsters

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00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:46.759
and sewer systems all across the campus area. Every logical

494
00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:48.319
physical search avenue was pursued.

495
00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.480
But what about the failures of the technology that the

496
00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:52.000
investigators were relying on.

497
00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:54.880
The technological landscape of two thousand and six was just

498
00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:58.319
immensely frustrating for them. The Ugly Tuna blind spot was

499
00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:01.440
just the beginning. The police discovered that many cameras in

500
00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:04.279
the surrounding area, cameras that would have picked up Brian's

501
00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:07.319
path if you'd use the construction exit, were either not

502
00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.640
working or in some cases they were faked.

503
00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:12.960
Cameras, like the Wendy's drive through camera.

504
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:16.720
Exactly the Wendy's camera, which was situated right near the

505
00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:19.039
most likely path he would have taken, was found to

506
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:23.200
be non operational. Siki and Hurst described a scenario where

507
00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.440
every potential piece of corroborating evidence just seemed to be

508
00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:29.200
undermined by faulty or absent technology.

509
00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:33.759
That cumulative technological failure the panning camera, the non working

510
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.599
drive through camera, the ambiguous cell phone data. It created

511
00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:40.200
the perfect environment for a flawless disappearance.51200:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.039



It did it ensured that the critical fifteen minute window51300:24:43.039 --> 00:24:46.640



after two am remains almost entirely dark, which allows all51400:24:46.680 --> 00:24:50.720



three major theories accident, voluntary departure, or foul play to51500:24:50.759 --> 00:24:51.920



persist with equal force.51600:24:52.039 --> 00:24:53.880



And the amount of time and energy police had to51700:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.279



spend chasing hoaxes and false leads must have been just incredible.51800:24:57.519 --> 00:25:01.440



The case generated massive national and Internet attention, which led51900:25:01.480 --> 00:25:05.960



to countless dead ends. Police investigated tips from Sweden, the52000:25:06.039 --> 00:25:08.519



Virgin Islands, numerous US states.52100:25:08.759 --> 00:25:12.240



The two thousand and eight online obituary message for Randy Schaffer,52200:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.440



signed brian Us Virgin Islands that was one of the52300:25:15.440 --> 00:25:17.319



most prominent ones it was, and.52400:25:17.279 --> 00:25:20.319



They traced it back to a public library computer in Columbus,52500:25:20.960 --> 00:25:24.119



and in a bizarre repetition of bad luck, the camera52600:25:24.200 --> 00:25:26.640



at that public library was also non working.52700:25:26.720 --> 00:25:28.480



You can't make this stuff up, so.52800:25:28.440 --> 00:25:31.440



They couldn't identify who typed the message. Even the more52900:25:31.480 --> 00:25:34.359



recent twenty twenty sighting of a homeless man in Tijuana53000:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.680



who resemble Brian was quickly ruled out by the FBI53100:25:37.799 --> 00:25:38.960



using facial recognition.53200:25:39.200 --> 00:25:42.240



So Brian Shaffer's disappearance is a lightning rod for speculation,53300:25:42.440 --> 00:25:46.599



precisely because the three major theories tragic accident, voluntary disappearance,53400:25:46.599 --> 00:25:50.000



and homicide all have elements that align with the evidence gaps.53500:25:50.319 --> 00:25:52.720



Let's start with the one. Carrie Ta Hurst lean toward53600:25:53.079 --> 00:25:55.000



theory A the tragic accident.53700:25:55.079 --> 00:25:59.000



Hurst's analysis was grounded in Brian's known behavior, his heavy53800:25:59.000 --> 00:26:02.079



intoxication that night, and his tendency to just take off.53900:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.559



So the primary component here is the dumpster theory.54000:26:04.839 --> 00:26:09.839



Right. Hurst hypothesized that Brian, heavily impaired, stumbled into one54100:26:09.880 --> 00:26:13.160



of the large industrial dumpsters behind the complex, And crucially,54200:26:13.440 --> 00:26:16.759



these city dumpsters often have side doors or are low54300:26:16.839 --> 00:26:18.759



enough to the ground that you don't have to climb54400:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.599



over the top. You might have been throwing up, passed out,54500:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.960



or just fell in and then became trapped.54600:26:24.119 --> 00:26:27.240



That makes immediate grim sense. If he passed out in54700:26:27.279 --> 00:26:29.920



a dumpster, the garbage truck comes shortly after, and he's54800:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.279



hauled away before anyone even realizes he's missing exactly.54900:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.839



But this leads immediately to the logistical nightmare of the disposal.55000:26:37.480 --> 00:26:40.519



Where would the body have ended up? Investigators had two55100:26:40.559 --> 00:26:43.799



main challenges. City of Columbus dumpsters went to a Franklin55200:26:43.839 --> 00:26:47.519



County landfill. Comercial dumpsters from the Ugly Tuna, which are55300:26:47.519 --> 00:26:50.440



the more likely target, went to a separate facility, possibly55400:26:50.440 --> 00:26:51.200



one in Tennessee.55500:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.000



How does the scale of those landfills make a physical55600:26:54.039 --> 00:26:57.200



search almost impossible even with cadaver dogs.55700:26:57.039 --> 00:27:00.599



The scale is astronomical. The Franklin County landfill, while they55800:27:00.640 --> 00:27:04.000



did search it with cadaver dogs, presented an immediate problem.55900:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.960



The sheer volume of decomposing waste has so many sources56000:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.039



of organic residues.56100:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.839



The dogs are getting hits on everything everything.56200:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.920



Cadaver dogs alert on any trace of human blood remains,56300:27:16.200 --> 00:27:19.440



and a landfill has everything from discarded band aids to56400:27:19.559 --> 00:27:23.960



materials contaminated with blood. They can't differentiate a major alert56500:27:24.160 --> 00:27:26.880



from a false positive caused by ordinary.56600:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.599



Waste and the commercial waste going to Tennessee.56700:27:29.960 --> 00:27:33.359



That's where the theory just spirals into impossibility. A commercial56800:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.759



landfill hundreds of miles away processes weighed so quickly in56900:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.400



volumes of thousands of tons per day. To effectively search57000:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.680



that area years later would require a massive excavation of57100:27:44.720 --> 00:27:46.119



a site many acres wide.57200:27:46.200 --> 00:27:49.720



It's a needle in a haystack operation on a continental scale.57300:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.640



Exactly, which is why the dumpster theory, while plausible, is57400:27:52.720 --> 00:27:55.559



functionally unprovable without a witness or a confession.57500:27:55.799 --> 00:27:58.720



But the cadaver dogs did give police a cent near57600:27:58.759 --> 00:27:59.319



the Wendy's.57700:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.400



That's critical detail that supports both the dumpster theory and57800:28:02.440 --> 00:28:06.119



the construction exit theory. Dogs found Brian sent near the Wendy's,57900:28:06.200 --> 00:28:09.119



which is directly behind the ugly Tuna, and also at58000:28:09.160 --> 00:28:11.559



an abandoned building along the route he would have taken58100:28:11.880 --> 00:28:13.519



if he exited through the construction area.58200:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.599



So this place is Brian, or at least his trajectory58300:28:16.759 --> 00:28:18.799



definitively in those rear alleyways.58400:28:19.160 --> 00:28:21.799



It confirms he did not just vanish on the main street.58500:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.119



He moved through that service corridor right where the dumpsters58600:28:26.160 --> 00:28:26.759



were located.58700:28:27.160 --> 00:28:32.000



Let's pivot to theory be voluntary disappearance. This one relies58800:28:32.039 --> 00:28:35.400



on the complexity of his psychological state, the grief and58900:28:35.480 --> 00:28:36.000



the pressure.59000:28:36.720 --> 00:28:39.880



This theory posits that Brian sees the spontaneous moment of59100:28:39.920 --> 00:28:44.440



his unnoticed exit and just chose to maintain that anonymity permanently.59200:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.200



The motivation is deep seated. We know he was grieving59300:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.319



his mother's death. Friends noted that the pressure of medical59400:28:51.359 --> 00:28:54.319



school becoming a doctor was maybe more his mother's dream59500:28:54.359 --> 00:28:55.160



than his own.59600:28:55.039 --> 00:28:57.559



And he had other dreams, like a music career exactly.59700:28:58.119 --> 00:29:00.240



But if the grief and the desire for freedom were59800:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.319



so overwhelming, why did he leave his guitars, his wall59900:29:03.400 --> 00:29:05.920



at his car. Why was his apartment so perfectly neat.60000:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.000



That's the greatest counter argument to the voluntary disappearance theory.60100:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.000



It is, and it forces us to refine the hypothesis.60200:29:12.640 --> 00:29:15.079



It suggests he was not planning a permanent vanishing when60300:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.039



he left the bar. He likely planned a temporary escape,60400:29:18.160 --> 00:29:20.079



a quick drive to clear his head, a couple of60500:29:20.160 --> 00:29:23.400



days away to mourn, and that temporary plan became permanent60600:29:23.519 --> 00:29:25.079



due to some unforeseen event.60700:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.839



So maybe he intended to come back for his stuff later,60800:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.000



or something else happened.60900:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.279



Right, maybe the act of disappearing became a self fulfilling61000:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.240



prophecy after a critical mistake or encounter shortly after he61100:29:37.319 --> 00:29:37.799



left the bar.61200:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.079



How feasible is running away in the modern age? Even61300:29:41.119 --> 00:29:42.319



back in two thousand.61400:29:42.000 --> 00:29:46.279



And six, scrad Hurst noted that disappearing is not impossible,61500:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.640



but it's not the easiest thing to do either. Without61600:29:49.720 --> 00:29:53.720



ever accessing your identity, no bank accounts, no social media,61700:29:54.079 --> 00:29:57.759



no employment, no medical care, it's incredibly difficult.61800:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.920



And police checked his computers for any signs of planning.61900:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.920



They did they checked for searches related to running away62000:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.839



or suicide and found nothing out of the ordinary, which62100:30:05.880 --> 00:30:10.000



suggests this was an impulsive act rather than a preveditated one.62200:30:09.839 --> 00:30:12.279



And the police have offered a way out if he62300:30:12.359 --> 00:30:12.799



is alive.62400:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.599



It's a powerful incentive. Law enforcement has publicly said that62500:30:16.640 --> 00:30:19.359



if Brian were to contact them simply to confirm he's alive,62600:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.920



his location would remain private and they'd immediately close the.62700:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.160



Case, which would offer some peace to his family, particularly62800:30:26.240 --> 00:30:27.000



is brother Derek.62900:30:27.319 --> 00:30:31.000



Exactly, While still acknowledging the possibility that Brian just walked63000:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.759



away and deserves the right to remain undetected.63100:30:34.039 --> 00:30:38.119



Finally, let's explore theory c homicide or foul play. This63200:30:38.279 --> 00:30:41.279



is the darkest scenario and the one Derek and alexis63300:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.519



naturally gravitate toward. Given the total lack of closure.63400:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.039



The high profile nature of the case immediately drew some63500:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.440



unusual theories, primarily the smiley faced killer theory, which was63600:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.599



gaining traction in the media around that time.63700:30:54.960 --> 00:30:57.839



For listeners who may not be steeped in true crime lore,63800:30:58.039 --> 00:31:02.000



can you briefly contextualize the smiley face theory and why63900:31:02.079 --> 00:31:03.640



Brian was thought to fit the pattern.64000:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.799



Sure. The theory, which is largely dismissed by most law64100:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.680



enforcement but was popularized by a few former detectives, suggests64200:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.200



a group of organized killers are responsible for the deaths64300:31:13.200 --> 00:31:17.480



of young, white, college educated, intoxicated men across the Midwest.64400:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.680



They supposedly leave a signature smiley faced graffiti near the body.64500:31:21.359 --> 00:31:24.200



Site, and Brian fits the victim profile perfectly.64600:31:24.519 --> 00:31:27.640



He does. But the biggest strike against this theory in64700:31:27.680 --> 00:31:32.559



Brian's case is the location. The victims are almost always64800:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.440



found in or near water, and Brian was never found64900:31:35.480 --> 00:31:40.200



near the Olentangy River. Despite those exhaustive searches, law enforcement65000:31:40.319 --> 00:31:43.960



views this as a very loose connection, not a definitive lead.65100:31:44.440 --> 00:31:47.960



What about a more localized accidental homicide followed by a65200:31:48.000 --> 00:31:48.440



cover up.65300:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.200



This is the scenario that would involve either Clint or65400:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.880



someone else in the bar. The speculation is that there65500:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.920



was an accidental death, maybe a drug overdose, a fight65600:31:57.920 --> 00:32:00.960



that went too far, and the body was quickly disposed.65700:32:00.599 --> 00:32:01.920



Of, so they would have had to get the body65800:32:01.920 --> 00:32:03.799



out of the bar without being seen, right.65900:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.960



While interviews with bar staff cleared them and the dogs66000:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.799



cleared the building. The possibility exists that the body was66100:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.400



immediately put into a large trash bag or even a66200:32:12.440 --> 00:32:16.400



suitcase and hauled out through that construction entrance, taking advantage66300:32:16.400 --> 00:32:17.599



of that camera blind spot.66400:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.559



But doesn't that require a tremendous amount of cool headed66500:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.799



organization and physical effort for someone who is likely just66600:32:23.839 --> 00:32:25.240



as intoxicated as Brian.66700:32:25.559 --> 00:32:29.000



It does, which is why this theory struggles without hard evidence.66800:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.440



If Klip was involved, he would have had to immediately66900:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.359



transition from a drunken partygoer to a highly efficient criminal mastermind.67000:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.200



Flawlessly disposing of a body getting out of the complex,67100:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.519



covering his tracks without witnesses, all within minutes. It's a67200:32:44.599 --> 00:32:45.319



tall order.67300:32:45.759 --> 00:32:47.319



And the drug deal theory.67400:32:47.400 --> 00:32:50.160



The drug deal gone wrong theory suggests Brian left the67500:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.799



bar to meet an outside contact for drugs and either67600:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.200



overdosed or was killed during the transaction, with the body67700:32:56.279 --> 00:32:59.000



rapidly disposed of by the dealer into a nearby dumpster67800:32:59.119 --> 00:33:04.079



or construction pit to avoid prosecution. Again, highly speculative, but67900:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.519



the rapid disposal via the dumpster remains the common denominator68000:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.640



across all the most plausible tragic theories.68100:33:09.960 --> 00:33:13.480



So the Brian Shaffer case didn't just frustrate investigators in Columbus.68200:33:13.680 --> 00:33:17.759



It exposed these critical systemic vulnerabilities in missing persons protocols68300:33:17.799 --> 00:33:19.440



across the entire state of Ohio.68400:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.319



It really did, especially concerning adults who vanish without immediate68500:33:23.359 --> 00:33:26.519



signs of foul play. And you have to recognize the68600:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.920



scale of this issue in Ohio. The state reports high68700:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.160



numbers over twenty one thousand missing persons reports in twenty68800:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.240



twenty four alone, with around three hundred and fifty adults68900:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.799



currently designated as long term missing, and the.69000:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.640



Schaffer case Because of its high profile and the specific69100:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.480



failures involved, it served as this painful case study that69200:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.359



eventually led to state level reform.69300:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.599



That reform crystallized in twenty twenty five when Governor Mike69400:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.039



DeWine convened the Ohio Missing Person's Working Group. Their mission69500:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.400



was clear, used the lessons learned from frustrating cold cases69600:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.119



like Brian Shaffer's to modernize and stream line state policy.69700:34:01.200 --> 00:34:04.519



So let's discuss the specific pain points they identified, starting69800:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.079



with the most common hurdle, the twenty four hour myth.69900:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.639



This is a direct parallel to the Shaffer case. The70000:34:09.719 --> 00:34:12.679



working group recognized that the general public often operates under70100:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.400



the false assumption fueled by TV shows, that you have70200:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.800



to wait twenty four hours to file a missing person's.70300:34:17.559 --> 00:34:21.800



Report, which is unequivocally false, completely false, but it delays70400:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.199



those crucial initial hours of an investigation.70500:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.840



Early reporting is absolutely vital. The cent trails, the immediate70600:34:28.840 --> 00:34:32.119



witness memories, the cell phone data, it's all freshest right70700:34:32.159 --> 00:34:36.159



after the disappearance. So the working group recommended educational initiatives70800:34:36.400 --> 00:34:39.159



to dispel this myth and encourage immediate.70900:34:38.760 --> 00:34:41.920



Reporting, and that would have been instrumental when Randy Shaeffer71000:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.880



realized Brian was missing on Monday, April third. That early71100:34:45.920 --> 00:34:50.400



delay in confirming his absence likely cost investigators crucial time71200:34:50.519 --> 00:34:51.840



on Saturday and Sunday.71300:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.599



Precisely. The second major pain point directly relates to those71400:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.360



ambiguous phone pings we talked about. Law enforcement often struggled71500:34:59.360 --> 00:35:03.000



to get timely access to records, specifically cell phone data71600:35:03.000 --> 00:35:06.400



and social media info for high risk missing adults when71700:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.679



there was no immediate evidence of a crime like kidnapping71800:35:08.719 --> 00:35:09.079



or murder.71900:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.800



So when the police needed to definitively check the early72000:35:11.880 --> 00:35:15.079



pings within that six block radius, or when they needed72100:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.880



to confirm if the Hilliard ping was a glitch or real,72200:35:18.320 --> 00:35:20.480



they were slowed down by bureaucratic hurdles.72300:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.920



Yes, they needed evidence of a crime to secure a72400:35:24.000 --> 00:35:28.440



standard warrant, and Brian's case lacked that clear evidence. The72500:35:28.480 --> 00:35:32.760



Working group addressed this by recommending new legislation for administrative72600:35:32.800 --> 00:35:33.519



search warrants.72700:35:33.840 --> 00:35:34.559



What would that do.72800:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.480



It's a mechanism that would allow officers quick access to72900:35:37.519 --> 00:35:41.440



these critical electronic records in high risk adult cases based73000:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.960



on the totality of the circumstances, rather than requiring immediate73100:35:45.000 --> 00:35:48.320



proof of a violent felony. This ability to get records73200:35:48.400 --> 00:35:51.239



quickly could make or break a case like Brian's, where73300:35:51.239 --> 00:35:53.440



the timeline of the phone is everything.73400:35:53.480 --> 00:35:55.719



And the third area focus speaks to the longevity of73500:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.199



these cases, which are now approaching two decades old.73600:35:58.679 --> 00:36:02.519



This addresses data preservation. Older case files, especially from two73700:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.800



thousand and six, exist primarily on paper. The working group73800:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.039



stress the critical importance of digitizing cold case files, fearing73900:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.599



that older paper records could be destroyed, degraded, or lost over.74000:36:12.440 --> 00:36:16.280



Time, preventing future investigators from using new forensic tech or74100:36:16.320 --> 00:36:19.960



analysis techniques, and who was tasked with keeping that data safe.74200:36:20.119 --> 00:36:23.559



The recommendation was for local law enforcement to digitize all74300:36:23.800 --> 00:36:29.280



unresolved missing persons reports before destroying the original paper files. Furthermore,74400:36:29.480 --> 00:36:33.000



they recommended that the Bureau of Criminal Investigation the BCI,74500:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.880



create and manage a central digital repository for all these74600:36:36.920 --> 00:36:38.239



cold case files.74700:36:38.039 --> 00:36:42.199



So the BCI, Ohio's primary criminal investigation agency would then74800:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.880



ensure this data is preserved and accessible for decades.74900:36:45.639 --> 00:36:48.559



Right hoping to prevent the information deficits that plague the75000:36:48.559 --> 00:36:49.599



schaff for investigation.75100:36:49.760 --> 00:36:54.320



It's just striking that this one baffling, singular case forced75200:36:54.320 --> 00:36:58.280



a state level reckoning with basic investigative protocols. It shows75300:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.679



that even with immense effort trait. Hurst called the investigation75400:37:02.320 --> 00:37:06.679



very very thorough, gaps in early technology and policy, combined75500:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.800



with non cooperation from key witnesses, can lead to a75600:37:09.840 --> 00:37:11.639



mystery that lasts indefinitely.75700:37:11.960 --> 00:37:15.760



Hurst conceded that retiring without answers was very frustrating. Brian75800:37:15.800 --> 00:37:19.159



Shaffer's disappearance remains the perfect confluence of factors, a perfect75900:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.320



camera blind spot, key technical failures, and the silence of76000:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.079



a main witness. The result is a flawless disappearance that76100:37:25.119 --> 00:37:27.039



resists every known investigative theory.76200:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.880



So we circle back to the enigma that started our76300:37:29.920 --> 00:37:34.239



deep dive Brian Schaffer. Was it a tragic accident involving76400:37:34.280 --> 00:37:38.480



an unseen dumpster, a meticulously planned voluntary disappearance fueled by76500:37:38.519 --> 00:37:41.559



grief and stress, or is something far darker involving foul76600:37:41.559 --> 00:37:43.039



play and a flawless cover up.76700:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.719



The lack of definitive evidence forces all three scenarios to76800:37:46.760 --> 00:37:50.039



exist in a kind of equilibrium. The case just demonstrates76900:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.480



the fundamental challenges and relying on the technology that was77000:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.880



available in two thousand and six, the limitations of panning CCTV,77100:37:56.199 --> 00:37:59.000



the ambiguity of cell tower data, and how those initial77200:37:59.000 --> 00:38:02.679



information deficits create a ripple effect that prevents closure decades later.77300:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.559



The chaos and opportunity of a busy college night life77400:38:05.559 --> 00:38:09.000



setting just offered the perfect cover for a rapid, irreversible event.77500:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.960



So here's the final thought for you, tomul Over. Brian77600:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.639



Schaeffer's last known movement was walking off camera, either back77700:38:15.639 --> 00:38:18.840



into the bar's chaotic hallway or toward a potential hidden77800:38:18.880 --> 00:38:21.800



service exit leading to a construction site. We know he77900:38:21.880 --> 00:38:25.199



was intoxicated, struggling with profound grief, and had just experienced78000:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.800



a conflict with the friend he was with. Given that78100:38:27.880 --> 00:38:32.360



explosive combination, what single seemingly innocent and unrecorded decision made78200:38:32.360 --> 00:38:35.840



by a highly impaired person, a decision to seek relief,78300:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.280



to evade conflict, or to simply get some fresh air,78400:38:39.360 --> 00:38:43.440



could have resulted in a flawless, permanent, and untraceable disappearance.78500:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.519



What does that tell us about the fragility of human78600:38:46.519 --> 00:38:50.480



accountability in a chaotic, opportune moment where technology briefly fails.78700:38:50.719 --> 00:38:53.119



If you have any information regarding the Brian Shaffer case,78800:38:53.119 --> 00:38:56.639



please contact the Columbus Division of Police Investigative Desk at78900:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.519



six one four six four five four six x two four.79000:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.679



Thank you for joining us for this deep dive into79100:39:01.679 --> 00:39:04.519



one of America's most frustrating true crime mysteries. We'll see79200:39:04.519 --> 00:39:05.039



you next time.79300:39:05.360 --> 00:39:08.519



This was the last known The facts are limited. The79400:39:08.599 --> 00:39:12.519



record ends where the answers disappear. Until more is known,79500:39:12.960 --> 00:39:14.679



this case remains unresolved.